Average Gr: 488. Kimber's Hunter Pro Desolve Blak takes the firm's more affordable mountain rifle to new heights. Published Dec 5, 2017 10:32 PM EST. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. I would like to purchase these. We will inform you when the product arrives in stock. The best thing is that Barnes makes a 300gr TSX bullet that shoots great out of my rifle. There was also a much milder 2.75-inch smokeless version, apparently popular among tiger hunters in India.I first fired a .577 in about 1979. Hopefully "Baby" my 500 Jeff and I are Africa bound in a few years. Driving a 400-grain bullet to a muzzle velocity of 2,125 fps, the .450/400 3-inch immediately gained an excellent reputation, as it could be housed in a lightweight double rifle, offering low recoil and a quick second shot. Again, careful reading of Pondoro Taylor, he who created the oft-quoted "Knock-Out Value," suggests that any hit near the brain from a major cartridge will knock an elephant down, stunned. Most rugers have a 23" bl, while 460 weatherbys have a 26" bl. Bid Now. It does not kick, but pushes lightly enough that when the gun comes down again, you are right on the target and ready to unleash the second dose of grainage to end the show. of energy. These rifles were far from handsome and never reached the market. Kevin Steele from Petersen's HUNTING speaks to Jordan Egli of Burris Optics about the all-new Veracity PH Riflescope. The stuff we had fail in 2008 chronographed at about 1,850 fps, 200 fps below specs. Please note that this observation is relative only to elephant. I can tell you that a break makes it loud as hell as Badsection said and ear plugs are an ABSOLUTE MUST. RECOIL SPRING ASSEMBLY DUAL 9MM G19GEN5. Barrel Length & Contour. I stood directly behind a prone shooter with a braked 300 Weatherby as he fired when I didn't think he was going to shoot. Mark I would like to buy your scope unless you have one with a red dot . The .460 Weatherby Magnum is based on the huge .378 Weatherby belted case necked up to accept .458" bullets. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. The rifles will be quite heavy and not a lot of fun to carry. Velocity. I had the same itch to scratch, and I ended up finding a 416WBY in the Euromark. Notify Me When Product Is Available. Up until 1980, there were fewer than 80 .600 Nitro Express rifles in existence. With an Accu-Fit stock and left hand adjustable bolt, this rifle is a perfect choice for anyone! Available in 12 and 20ga., 26 and 28" barrels. No muzzle brake. Scott Rupp gets a chance to talk to Aaron Oelger about a few new products from Hodgdon and why reloading store shelves are empty. Here are the facts about a .460 Weatherby. 375 H&H is a great all around cartridge, you can load it all different ways for whatever application you want, and it's a proven cartridge for the largest animals on the planet. Thats 50 percent more energy than the 458 Winchester. Compared to the foregoing arsenal of horrors, the Casull is more like a BB gun. But that .416 was a brute. I've never fired a .460 Weatherby. The .416 Remington Magnum is fully capable of handling any and all game, including the heavyweights like elephant, hippo, buffalo and coastal brown bears. It's tougher if you're stupid. Worse, I think. of energy delivered by the .700. 2 Jeffery, and most importantly, Joseph Lang's .470 Nitro Express, were brought about as a result of the ammo ban. Shipping not available to P.O. It was at the top of the heap, until insurrections in both India and Sudan resulted in the English ban of all .45 caliber ammunition, resulting in the development of many replacement cartridges, but more about that in a minute. Jack Lott designed the .458 Lott after an unsatisfactory experience with the .458 Winchester and an angry Cape buffalo. Sort of takes your breath away, dont it? On multiple elephant I watched Bill Jones fire both barrels almost as quickly as if the rifle was a .470. Regards Mike. Weatherby is a brand synonymous with the African continent and high-dollar hunts. The belted case takes up less room in the magazine, and is a bit more affordable than the Rigby variant, but no game animal would ever know the difference between the two. The .460 Weatherby Magnum is based on the huge .378 Weatherby belted case necked up to accept .458" bullets. That includes 45 Auto, 10MM, .450 Bushmaster, .458 SOCOM, .45-70, .338 LM, and up to .460 Weatherby Magnum. Available in 12 and 20ga., 26" and 28" barrels. The recoil force is 160 foot-pounds, which is considerably more than the .600, and 10 times the kick of a .308. Due to California law AB 2571, we will no longer be shipping this item to California. $665.00. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Ive often said that good shooting begins with the acceptance of pain, and great shooting begins with the love of pain. It's interesting Take a 300-grain bullet and drive it at 2550 fps. The action is bedded in a hand-laminated, composite stock, with a raised Monte Carlo comb, and is . He was not warned about it. The round's ballistics were surpassed by the .458 Lott and .460 Weatherby Magnum cartridges pretty early on, with commensurately more recoil and cost, so the .458 . But the .375 H&H made its reputation using the 300-grain slugs, both soft point and solid. That 9.5% more capacity does translate into faster speeds. It worked so well it became the standard for large game, including both African and Asian elephants, buffalo, tigers, lions, and rhinoceros. The original .378 Weatherby Magnum parent case was inspired by the .416 Rigby. Many modern gun makers, including Heym and Butch Searcy as well as Rigby, have made new .577s. Re: 300 Win Mag recoil.how bad is it? More curiosity than desire to own I guess. Installed by Google Analytics, _gid cookie stores information on how visitors use a website, while also creating an analytics report of the website's performance. It goes up your nose, and into your ears, and stands your hair on end. .600 Nitro ExpressIt's an overstatement to say the .577 was "popular," but it was a standard cartridge. I haven't gotten around to putting a scope on it yet however that'll change after the holidays and then Mr. .460 and I are going to be spending some time together on the range. 2,612. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Matte finish. YouTube sets this cookie via embedded youtube-videos and registers anonymous statistical data. Two decades later, Ruger added its own .416 to the mix, necking the .375 Ruger up to .416, for Rigby performance from a long-action receiver. Curt. The 7mm Remington Mag generates significant recoil of 22.15 ft-lbs at 13.32 fps. Both the .500 NE and .500 Jeffery use a .510-inch diameter bullet. Gun God cal 460 weatherby Magnum. This is pretty good since the bullet is nearly half an inch in diameter. The .460 Weatherby Magnum is a belted, bottlenecked rifle cartridge, developed by Roy Weatherby in 1957. Mag. The .416 Rigby wallops shooters with 58 ft-lbs. Kevin Steele of Petersen's HUNTING is at the Streamlight booth at SHOT Show 2023 to go over the Bear Trap light from Streamlight. The big deal is the outstanding power and accuracy at a very reasonable price. Farmer 1 wrote on Mark Biggerstaff's profile. Why bother with all that . Mag. The Remington Model Seven is ready, willing and able to handle just about any task. I'm not really one to judge the recoil, as I've only fired one round of the .460 Weatherby out of a Mark V Deluxe. He looked at me with a beatific smile saying, "That's wonderful.". Additionally, though it does have a very stout recoil, the .458 Win Mag has a noticeable advantage over the .458 Lott in this area as well. John broke .460 stocks on a regular basis. Blah, blah, blah. The .475 NE. A great hunting gun for large game. But I am not sure why you really need another 2100 ft.lbs over a 458 lott. It has been used to take the tough Cape buffalo, with good success, but I personally feel there are better choices. YSC cookie is set by Youtube and is used to track the views of embedded videos on Youtube pages. .700 Nitro ExpressAs mentioned, this cartridge is just 20 years old. The Case. The good thing is that with the developments in modern bullets, many of the cartridges will perform much better than when they were first released. Maybe the hunter should have hit the bull with the 300-grain bullet of a 375 H&H, followed by a few people being run over. Red Oak, White, or Chestnut for Deer Herd? Speaking of recoil, the 460 Weatherby Magnum, which was introduced in the late 1950s, is even more ferocious. Massaro with a Mozambican Cape buffalo, cleanly taken with a Heym 89B in .450/400 3" Nitro Express. In a 1970s monograph commemorating its "last .600," Holland & Holland's then-managing director Malcolm Lyell wrote that total world production of .600s--all makes, all actions--was possibly 80 rifles. It operates at extremely high pressures for a handgun, which makes matters worse. .338 Winchester Magnum, .300 Remington Ultra Magnum, 6.71mm (.264) Lazzeroni Phantom, 7.82mm (.308) Lazzeroni Patriot, .45 Smith & Wesson Schofield, 6.5x54 MS (6.5 Mannlicher-Schoenauer), .32 H&R Magnum, .32 Auto (7.65mm Browning), 8mm Remington Magnum, 7.21mm (.284) Lazzeroni Firebird, .25 Winchester Super Short Magnum (WSSM), .44-40 Winchester, .375 Winchester, .444 Marlin, .325 Winchester Short Magnum. Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. The .577 and .600 Nitro Express cartridges are well over a century old. "Ker-plunk." Thanks for the responses! A cookie set by YouTube to measure bandwidth that determines whether the user gets the new or old player interface. Bullets from 235 grains to 350 grains are readily available, and the cartridge is extremely versatile. Petersen's HUNTING Publisher, Kevin Steele is in the CZ booth with Dylan Rice at SHOT Show to talk about CZ 600 Series Trail rifle. Loan me the 460 for a box full of ammo! JavaScript is disabled. I do agree Ryan, I have fired may be around 20 odd rounds at the targets, the shoulder does takes the beating, but I believe its a matter of practice, agree with you the .470 has a smoother recoil may be due to the breech loading, but this cannon of a rifle .460 does hits hard both ways and its a beauty in belted magnums. While there are some hunters that enjoy hunting with these .500s, but often they are reserved for the Professional Hunters who need to pursue wounded game at very close distances. My thoughts are that the vast majority of the writers have never seen, let alone fired, a 460. I am skeptical. This spine-snapping number was created in 1993 by the A Square Company, allegedly in response to two PHs who needed more power (what the hell were they hunting?) It was a straight-walled case based on a shortened .375 H&H Magnum, driving a 500-grain bullet at an advertized velocity of 2,150 fps, matching the ballistics of the .450 Nitro. The 400-grain bullets can be pushed to 1,900 or even 2,000 fps in modern loads, making it a good choice for the North American heavyweights, namely the brown bear and bison. According to the Hornady Handbook, Third Edition handloaders can push a 350 grain bullet to 2,950 fps with 115.5 grains of H380 powder or 123.2 grains of Winchester 760 powder. The most enthusiastic of these gives its monster bullet a velocity of 2,050 fps and a muzzle energy of 8,400 foot-pounds. Now, the 460 Wby is one of the nastiest on the chart. Let's take a look at some of the big guys and their performance. So, by comparison with the Weatherby, the recoil of the .500 Nitro Express and the .458 Winchester Magnum should seem as gentle as a maiden's . I was invited by Bill Ward, who then ran Griffin & Howe, to test shoot a .577 Jeffrey double at G&Hs little range in the basement of the Abercrombie & Fitch store on Madison Avenue and 46th Street in New York City. Bullet weight in both solid and softpoint is 1,000 grains. The graphic lesson is this: If your .577 doesn't rattle your teeth on the range, you probably don't have enough velocity. for example, chambering a lightweight, short action rifle for a powerful Magnum cartridge like the .300 WSM and the result will be a dramatic increase in kick. Change my 458 Lott for a 460 Weatherby Magnum, WTB Left Hand Winchester M70 Safari Express .375 H&H, Custom Loading Blocks & Powder Funnels, Any Caliber, Wanted Remington .444 Marlin 240 Grain Bullets Only. Model 90 - 460 S&W. $ 2,549.50 DEPOSIT. At distances of 50 to 100 feet, depending on the rifle, the intensity of the report had moderated to about the same level as the rifle without the brake in place. Tell me what you need. Regards Mike. Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. Uh, no. Contributing Editor for RifleShooter Magazine, Brad Fitzpatrick gives us a review of this modernized version of an iconic favorite. Heck, other than close in dangerous game protection, I'd take a 300 Win Mag over 45-70 I'm any scenario, and you can load that pretty hot. Now that may not scare you when you look at it as a couple of numbers, but consider that 23 feet per second is a little over 15 1/2 miles per hour. The .450/400 3-inch Nitro Express (or .400 Jeffery) was introduced in 1902 and was an update of the blackpowder .450/400 3 -inch cartridge. Publisher, Kevin Steele is with Brett Marquardt from Streamlight Inc. discussing the new Streamlight Pro Tac 2.0, the latest edition in the Pro Tac series. The 460 moves 450- to 600-grain .458" bullets much faster than any other commercial rifle; or, when loaded down, moves them at a somewhat reduced speed at significantly lower pressure. Warren told me that, out of curiosity, he fired his first shot high in the pachyderms forehead, which is nothing but bone. The hunter swung the 460 and popped him. The .375 Holland & Holland is, in the author's opinion, the most useful cartridge ever invented. lbs is quite an increase in footpounds over the lott at 2300ft/sec. I saw only one, which had been stocked by Griffin & Howe, who had considerable experience building heavy rifles. .577 Nitro ExpressUnlike the other two, which started life in the smokeless era, the .577 Nitro Express 3-inch was a smokeless adaptation of a blackpowder cartridge. Must be 18 or older to purchase rifle ammunition. . Introduced in 1965 with the .444 Marlin cartridge, the Model 444 was the most powerful lever action of its day. Lighter bullets were made available for hunting smaller game, and they certainly work fine for deer, impala, kudu, elk and the like. The .700 was about five pounds heavier, and I really wouldn't want to carry it. Griptonite synthetic stock. I agree that, thanks to its high velocity, the .460 Weatherby Magnum produces more energy than the .577 or .600. Some of the data that are collected include the number of visitors, their source, and the pages they visit anonymously. That's more recoil than I need and it has more penetration than I like..The gun is heavy to pack around all day.. Bob my friend from Sydney went to Safari firearms yesterday to pick up some stuff & looked at the Marlin 35 REM for me, they want $1900 for it with a tasco scope, & $1600 with out scope i think its a $900 rifle at the most thank you for the lead but i will not pay that much. Shortly after the .460 Weatherby appeared, the rifle-making firm of Atkinson & Marquart, a builder of high-grade rifles in Prescott, Ariz., developed this beast. Since then a few more have been made, but only a handful of modern firms will make a .600. When shooting or being near shooting, wear hearing protection. Bill Ward, a godless man in whom a love of decency did not abide, suspected the rifle would malfunction and used me as a guinea pig. Nearly four tons of smashing power makes the 460 the only choice for Africas most dangerous game. Most of the people I shoot with just shake their heads at what I shoot. Matte finish with synthetic stock. With less recoil, the 257 can put as much energy on target as a 30-06 30" barrels. But until the advent of the .700 Holland & Holland cartridge in 1980, it was the most powerful commercial round available. The weatherby weighs 10.5 lbs. The Creedmoor is the hottest cartridge on the planet. Tell me what you need. Clear. I've used it to cleanly take Cape buffalo, with rather impressive results. One of the things we learned was that much of the .577 ammo out there is loaded too slow. John Rigby & Co. released the .450 Nitro Express in 1898, to improve the performance of the old .450 Black Powder Express by using modern, smokeless powder. Publisher Kevin Steele is in the Beretta booth with Logan Killam, the Shotgun Product Manager, to discuss the all new Beretta A300 Ultima Turkey. | Cartridge Type: Height: 2.913". The .460 Weatherby Magnum was designed as an African dangerous game rifle cartridge for the hunting of heavy . Now don't get me wrong it pushes me around but it's not over bearing or brutal in my opinion. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. Unfortunately, as we know, as velocity goes up recoil goes up exponentially. Field & Streams Warren Page may have been the first hunter to kill an elephant with a .460. Kevin Steele of Petersen's HUNTING is with Dawn Wehunt of Rock River Arms INC. learning about the new Ascendant platform. I had a custom 460 built quite a few years ago. When driving your car, wear your seatbelt. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. 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